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Are frequent flyer credit cards worth the plastic they're printed on?

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Are frequent flyer credit cards worth the plastic they're printed on?

Posted by George Hobica on Wednesday, January 30, 2008

We've been wondering. Does it make sense to spend $25,000 on a frequent flyer credit card in order to earn 25,000 miles, which is typically what you need for a free domestic roundtrip ticket. If, that is, there are seats available to frequent flyers, which there often are not.

All too often, you have to spend 45,000 or 50,000 miles for a domestic ticket, right?

And what if that ticket would only cost you $179, or $225, the typical price that we often list for cross country fares when there's a sale?

Maybe you'd be better off with a cash back credit card instead. For example, after you've spent $6500 using your card, the American Express Blue Cash card pays 1.5% on all purchases, and 5% back on supermarket, gas station, and drugstore purchases. So let's say you take that same $25,000, and let's say $15,000 of that is "other" purchases, and $10,000 is gas, food, and drugstore.

The calculator please! You'd earn $225 plus $500 for a total of $725 in cash back. And then you take that cash and buy yourself a nice airline ticket without being told, sorry, there are no seats.

Honestly, seems like a no brainer to us.

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Some of us could write a book on maximizing credit card rewards. I have cards that pay 1% cash back (or more) and I certainly prefer cash, but I have had airline cards and I switch to another one annually. The first year is free of an annual fee and I get 20k-30k bonus miles for joining. Getting enough miles to take a domestic flight is what you should be comparing. Honestly, seems like a no-brainer to me!
by RMF9 on Wednesday, December 09, 2009
Since I don't fly a lot, I got a Capital One card a few years ago to try to earn enough miles for a ticket to Hawaii. They kept raising the amount needed and then changed the whole program. Now I still use the card but when i get to 50,000 miles, I just turn it in for a check for $500 and do what I want with it with no hassles.
For the record, very few small stores take Amex. Also, many stores are rethinking taking credit cards at all since the merchant fees and percentages charged keep going up every month. Those airline miles and rewards of any kind come right from the merchant's pocket and many of us would rather keep our prices low for ALL our customers (I own a small gift store) than give a pricey advantage to a few. Many folks don't even realize it costs us big $$$ to take credit cards, no matter what processor we use.

by virgorising on Wednesday, April 29, 2009
I am not convinced that an airline-connected charge card would be valuable for me either, but I do find my Chase Signature Travel Plus card worthwhile. It has no annual fee, but gives me points/miles for every purchase AND double miles for travel-related ones. Since I purchase my staff's flights and hotel on this card I gain many points! 25000 gives me tickets on any flight with regular published rates of $400 or less (or other options for international flights, of course) so isn't used for ff controlled seats. Or, as virgorising mentioned above, it can be used for a cash or gift certificate instead. Best of both worlds.
by lmerklin on Wednesday, June 17, 2009
most of these expired in 2007. Am I the only one noticing this? Why post them? I'm disappointed.... :(
by shishibeach on Tuesday, December 02, 2008
I've used a Citibank Mastercard for years, one personal and one business, but both linked to the same American mileage account. In the last three years, I've used miles for 4 domestic flights, business class tickets to the Carribean for my daughter and her boyfriend, and a ticket to Italy. Most required some advance planning, but surprisingly, I got the Italy ticket within a month of my September departure date. I'm a believer.
by owlasoc on Wednesday, December 03, 2008
Our family travels to Germany every Christmas. Since the flights were so high this year, we used part of our miles to reduce the price of our 4 tickets. I had 70,000 miles, so we used 60, 000 to reduce the cost of the 4 tickets by $600. We decided to use the miles we have next time on one ticket and buy the others. I have a US Air Visa and an American Express platinum card. I have used the US Air to redeem domestic flights and the Delta to help reduce the cost of the international tickets. I really had no problem using either. The Capital One sounds really good, though. I might consider that in the future.
by lamb153 on Thursday, December 04, 2008
My primary card is a gold preferred rewards amex, with which I pay every household bill and charge transaction where it is accepted. Result is that I earn about 2400 points a month. These points can easily be transferred to many airline or hotel rewards.

But I don't do that because I often have to fly at the drop of a hat because of family responsibilites. I can select any flight on just about any airline at the best price/schedule that works for me. When it comes time to pay, Amex charges the price of the ticket to my card and pays the airline (who has no idea I'm flying on "points").

Then I select to redeem points with Amex to cover the charge, based on the price of the ticket. While the redemption rate is awful (10 points per dollar) it's fast, easy, available for very last minute travel and I have a much wider selection than if I were trying to redeem an award.

One benefit is that because the ticket is not issued as an award ticket, if there are problems with my flight, I get treated like a regular paying passenger when it comes to changes or compensation for delays.

If I were fixated on bargains, this would not ever be classified as such, but since I am often travelling last minute, it's been a wonderful option for me. It may not be the best value, but to get a last minute ticket for no cash outlay, it can't be beat.

by sweettweet on Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Comparing two years of charging, my NWA card earns me about five free domestic tickets. The Amex card would earn me about $1850 in cash rebates.

Most of the tickets I buy out of MSP are between $350-400. At $375 on average, that'd pay for five similarly priced tickets.

by Shareasus on Friday, January 16, 2009
I use US Airways Visa and Mastercard. I have had it for 2 years and have gotten 3 frequent flyer miles tickets and didn't have to change my plans but once by one day to get to use the miles. I believe the frequest flyer miles card is the way to go.
by US Airways flyer on Tuesday, December 02, 2008
I've piled up a lot of NWA miles and now that prices for business class to Europe are up, am using cash and miles for trips there. I learned the hard way too many times that the ultimate torture is to be placed next to a 350+ pounder.

Why can't the airlines make them buy two seats???

by doug h CO on Tuesday, December 02, 2008
I like the SouthWest card....With the freebies they give you up front, it takes no time to get enough points for a free ticket.
by jane on Tuesday, December 02, 2008
I used to charge everything on an airline card, but they have so few flights available when you want to redeem that i switched to Capital One. They have no yearly fees, and you can fly any airline, anytime. All you have to do is buy the cheapest ticket you can get, charge it on their card, and when you let them know you want to use your mileage for that trip, they credit your card. Could not be simpler.
by Michel on Tuesday, December 02, 2008
Agree with Adam. He said it well, so I won't repeat everything he said, except to say that he's dead on when he said the best use of miles is for international awards--specifically, higher-class international awards. I just booked the mother of all international awards at the best deal going in the industry: British Airways first class from Los Angeles to Sydney--the LONG way around the world. (BA only flies through LHR, so my trip is LAX-LHR-SIN-SYD.) Such a trip would cost upwards of $30,000. But it was mine for only 150,000 Alaska Airlines miles. Sure, I could have booked seven domestic tickets (at 20,000 miles apiece on AS), but I can find domestic tickets from ANC to wherever for under $500. That $500 times seven equals $3,500. I got a nearly ten-fold return by resisting the urge to fly for free NOW and wait a bit. Now, I'm going to enjoy a spa in the sky three quarters of the way around the world (with the ability to use the legendary British Airways clubs during our overnight in London). Now, it's a little harder to compare a measly 5% cash back card when I'm getting a return many times more!

--Chris L.

by on Saturday, February 02, 2008
The miles vs. cash back debate really depends on how you plan on utilizing each respective rewards program. Unquestionably in my mind, the best value is to use a flexible (meaning redeemable on any airline) miles card to upgrade a class fare, but even better than that are international flight redemptions (as indicated by your reader that used BA for his trip to NZ.)

The perfect solution is to have 2 separate cards... one for cash back and the other for miles and frequent flyer redemptions. That gives you the best of both worlds and the ability to take advantage of both cash and miles.

Here's a few great articles that cover this debate in depth:

http://www.smartertravel.com/travel-advice/the-great-credit-card-debate-frequent-flyer-miles-or-cash-rebate.html?id=2433502

http://www.creditcardassist.com/blog/consumers-prefer-cash-back-but-use-miles/

by Robert Alan on Friday, March 14, 2008
That American Express Blue Card link does not work. Could you post it again?
by dd on Thursday, May 15, 2008
What do you think of the usairways frequent flyer miles of 25000
free miles if you open a credit card by nov 30, 2008? It is a free ticket but i am worried about availabllity of the tickets.
What percentage of travels get the travel dates they want with a free ticket?

by deuce on Sunday, November 16, 2008
Here's a link to a page with that offer:

http://www.creditcardassist.com/cashback/americanexpressbluecash-cashback.html

by Steve Sildon on Thursday, May 15, 2008
For those of us in markets where we have fewer discount carriers, such as
Minneapolis, and where average ticket prices are higher, I think the
benefits of the cash back cards aren't as compelling. I also think your
ratio of grocery, gas, and drugstore spending is too high.

I put approximately $60K a year on my NWA VISA card. Of that charging, only
about $7800 would qualify for the 5% cash back on the Amex card.
Additionally, roughly 20 percent of my charging would not qualify due to the
substantial number of merchants who don't take Amex.

Comparing two years of charging, my NWA card earns me about five free
domestic tickets. The Amex card would earn me about $1850 in cash rebates.
Most of the tickets I buy out of MSP are between $350-400. At $375 on
average, that'd pay for five similarly priced tickets.

But if using the miles for international travel or international upgrades,
the cash back pales in value to the miles. $1850 will buy only one coach
ticket to Australia or somewhere like Scandinavia in summer. It's less than
one Z class discounted business fare to Europe. The miles would pay for two
tickets to Europe or Asia or two upgrades to biz class.

Admittedly, the capacity controls make the awards hard to use, and I pay
about $60 yearly for the card, but I'm not convinced the cash back cards
work as well in fortress hubs or for int'l or premium travel.

Love the site.

Adam

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