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Hawaiian Airlines leaves family of eleven strandedTravel Q&AYou can submit your own question to us at askgeorge@airfarewatchdog.com. We will try to answer as many as possible. If we use your question in a future newsletter, we will send you a free Airfarewatchdog T-shirt. We do not print your name or other details in our newsletters. To post a comment to one of our Q&A's please click on "read more" and then "post a comment." Current posts | CategoriesHawaiian Airlines leaves family of eleven strandedQ. My family of 11 were booked on Hawaiian Airlines from Seattle to Honolulu for a two week vacation. The plane we were to fly out on was supposed to be arriving from Oakland, and we were scheduled to depart at 8:05 am. The plane arrived from Oakland at 8 pm, 12 hours late! Finally, we were told the flight would now leave at 10 am the next morning, and no hotels were offered. The next day, we were told our flight was cancelled, and the earliest we could fly out would be a whole seven days later. Needless to say, our long planned vacation was ruined and we incurred significant expenses. What recourse do we have? A. Yikes, what a nightmare! At eleven tickets, plus lodging, it seems to us that Hawaiian should - at the very least - offer you vouchers. And according to their contract of carriage, item 5 seems to back that up: Amenities/Services for Delayed Passengers 2. Meals - Passengers will be furnished one meal voucher if the delay will extend beyond the four (4) hours. No alcoholic beverages will be furnished to any passengers. 3. Local Ground Transportation will be provided to the downtown area or from/to local hotel whichever is applicable. 4. Communications - One long distance telephone call will be allowed between any two points in the United States. 5. In lieu of the above, and subject to passenger's approval, HA will compensate the passenger with credit valid for the purchase of transportation. The credit will be valid for travel only on HA within 365 days of the date of issue and will apply only to online transportation via HA, may not be endorsed to or accepted by any other carrier and is not refundable to, saleable by, transferable by or assignable by the passenger.
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If our family and my husband's brother and family traveled together it would be 12 people. 3 (adult) kids per family, plus a son-in-law and a grandchild. Many families travel with grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings/spouses, etc. I would be willing to bet that this was not 2 parents with 9 kids!!! If each of my 3 kids were married and had 1 child each, we would be 11, too!!!
Um, excuse me??? That's rather judgement. Besides, you're making an assumption that family is two parents and children. . . could be extended family. Or maybe they're all adopted.... no matter what, it wasn't necessary to equate this family's size with the poor treatment given by the airline.
Jim, I couldn't agree more!
Every time I come on this site, I read some tome about SOMEONE who got shafted by this airline or that. . . . Quantas makes a balls up of someone's flight to Australia, Delta reams an early-bird discount flier by "canceling" his seat on a holiday flight so they can sell it to someone else for 3x the price, etc. etc. etc.
If any other company in any other industry treated it's customers so abysmally, not only would they be up to their teeth in Class Action lawsuits, but they'd be outta business so fast it would make their heads spin. . .
I don't understand this - will someone please explain to me why at least ONE airline doesn't start a "We treat you like CUSTOMERS, not CARGO." ad campaign? You would think. . . if there were a half-dozen carriers going from "A" to "B" - and one offered customer service that met even minimal levels of acceptability - not even talking about "customer centric" service - they'd have more customers than they'd know what to do with.
What say ye?
Jim
From mainland to HNL:
Alaska, American, Continental, Delta, Hawaiian, Northwest, United, US Airways
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honolulu_International_Airport#Main_Overseas_Terminal_.28Gates_6-34.29
@Matthew
It looks like it was this flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL1028/history/20081221/2354Z/KOAK/KSEA
And these are the departures from SEA:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do?airport=sea&airportQueryDate=2008-12-21&airportQueryTime=0&airlineToFilter=(HA)+Hawaiian+Airlines&airportQueryType=0&x=9&y=9
And arrivals:
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do?airport=sea&airportQueryDate=2008-12-21&airportQueryTime=0&airlineToFilter=(HA)+Hawaiian+Airlines&airportQueryType=1&x=49&y=4
@Matthew
It's as if these companies all behave like they have the monopoly on air travel and can treat their customers like crap. Either that, or their service is so terrible, they'd go broke trying to fix all of the costly screw-ups they commit. Any other industry and we would've BEEN given up on them.
I understand the airlines don't want to purchase rooms for passengers that live in the city, but they really should offer something more, like transportation back to their homes or something. I had this happen to me on the way to Seattle, everything was going fine in my first leg until the pusher broke off something on the airplane, and we could have flown fine, but the captain wanted it fixed before we left. That was just the first of many problems, and although I was rerouted, more flights were late and US Airways was experiencing a massive reservations meltdown. I ended up going back to Chicago to try to make a non-stop flight, but we sat on the tarmac as the other two planes I was booked on left. So of course the airline was unwilling to pay for anything, and since I took a cab to the airport, it was cheaper to book a room than pay the cab fare back home and then back to the airport early in the morning. Of course I didn't sleep well at all because of the ordeal and fear I was going to miss the early morning flight. Overall it was just miserable, and of course all my other connections [five flights in total] were all on-time.
I should just fly Southwest.
@Matthew
I would never fly Continental again. And Hawaiin Airlines seems to be one I wouldn't try now, either.
But with 11 people - wouldn't they have booked a group deal? It seems that flying a normal commercial deal would have been silly and, here, costly. But if they did book a group deal then the 240-type terms need not apply (sadly).