Here's an idea: Instead of charging for checked baggage, why not charge for carry-ons instead? That's what Mark N. Katz suggests in this article. With passengers rethinking those bulky carry-ons to avoid such a fee, security lines and boarding times could be seriously reduced. So which one would you rather pay (and no, smarty pants, 'neither' isn't an option here)? Checked bag fees that passengers will probably try to avoid by feverishly stuffing as much as possible in a carry-on, which could lead to longer security lines? Or a carry-on bag fee that could potentially reduce wait times? But don't let us sway you. Tell us what you think in our latest reader poll.
And if you're old enough to remember, back in the good old days of flying, there was no such thing as carryons. Airlines just had basically hat racks to put your coat and hat on, and no bins that closed. You were only allowed to bring one of those cute little airline flight bags you see sold on eBay sometimes. And a little reading matter, and a camera. That was it. Maybe we should go back to the good ole days.
What do you think? Leave some comments below! I've copy pasted some of the emails we've already received on this topic, below.
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In response to your survey question about which I would prefer a fee for checked baggage, or a fee for carry-on. Checked baggage might be a viable option if the airlines had a better track record of making sure my baggage arrived when I did at my destination. At least with carryone (or my favorite plane side check-in) I know my belongings will be where I am and not sitting in the baggage area of another airport.
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I would much prefer that the airlines charge for carry on bags. If they did, maybe I wouldn't get hit in the face by overloaded backpacks as often!
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Concerning charges for checked baggage on airlines, I much prefer that travelers be charged for carryon baggage! Not the ladies' handbags or reasonably sized tote bags/computer cases, but suitcases! I don't know how many times I've waited forever in the aisle being unable to get to my seat awaiting someone trying to stuff their suitcase(s) into an overhead bin. Fully agree that charging for checked baggage will create even more of that type problem!
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Regarding the article about charging for carry on's - No Way! I carry one bag and a laptop bag and I do not want to trust my stuff to the checked baggage nightmare. My bag fits on the regional jets like CRJ50's so I defnitely don't overstuff it nor hold up the crazy security lines... I travel too much for that kind of headache!
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Charging for carry-on instead of checked baggage - I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA. Pass it on ....
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I would prefer first checked bag be free and first carry on be free. Charges would only for second bags, checked and carry on
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Since we only use one carry on bag per person and do not check any bags this would not be a good solution for us. To make it equal for everyone, have all passengers put all their luggage on a scale and have it weighed along with the passangers weight.
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Yes, why the heck didn't the airlines determine charging for carry-on luggage would be a better option than charging to check luggage? Mark N. Katz couldn't of spelled it out any clearer! Now the airport security lines (searches) will taken even MORE time to get through. Charging passengers to check their carry-on luggage is only the beginning of yet more airline travel nightmares!
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I like the idea of charging for carry-ons and allowing the first checked bag free! I am usually traveling with both a computer bag and a clothing bag that would fit overhead. But, I don't travel enough anymore to warrant preferred boarding, so that means a race to find a place for ANY carryon! Why not charge those who travel for business on a regular basis and prefer to carry on? They're usually on expense accounts and can charge the fees back to their companies. Besides, even if I can find a space for a carry-on, I'm short and not as strong as I was when I traveled on business. The baggage charge is also a real deterrent to any traveler who is less than perfect or physically fit. That's discrimination! Maybe AARP should take up this cause for older travelers.
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I think charging a fee for carry-ons is great idea. Let everyone bring on a briefcase and/or purse no charge, but check everything else.
I 've seen alot of people that don't even have the body strength to put them in the bins. But some nice passenger will help.
I figure if you can't put in there, you need to check it.\!!
So Maybe we need a test before security that has you pick the bags up over your head. You fail, you check.
Another way to discourage this, would be to have a separate line for anything that rolls and beyond the limit of one handbag and/or computer bag...
Just my two cents
But what is the difference anyways. If it is 1 bag that weighs 65 pounds or 2 bags that weigh 65 pounds together, they are still on the same plane right? I do not understand their logic. While other passengers are allowed to bring in 2-3 carry-on bags that probably weigh more than my 1 checked baggage and they dont get charged.
Plus there is overweight passengers....
So I weigh 180, my bag weighed 65 and i had no carry on, a total weight of 245 and I get charged an extra $80.
I then observed a 250 pound woman that carried on 2 bags that probably weighed 10-20 pounds each, plus the baggage that she checked that was around maybe 35 pounds. A total weight of 305-325, and this person doesnt get charged.
It is all about saving fuel for these airlines but their logic does not make sense.
How about total weight of the passenger plus ALL (carry-on and checked bags) luggage? If that is over a certain limit than charge them extra.
If you want to reply to me about being mean to fat people that pack too much than be my guest. But it is not their fault I just want some equality in the airlines messed up logic.
This is so obvious there should be no question. Comments to the contrary are probably from the same people who carry on and make everyone else wait for them.
So let us not get carried away in convoluting different rules. Simple charge by the WEIGHT an individual brings to the plane. That would be TOTAL WEIGHT including checked, carryon, and the person themselves. Now that is fair.
PS> I'm not young or thin myself. But maybe this would help me get motivated.
So let us not get carried away in convoluting different rules. Simple charge by the WEIGHT an individual brings to the plane. That would be TOTAL WEIGHT including checked, carryon, and the person themselves. Now that is fair.
PS> I'm not young or thin myself. But maybe this would help me get motivated.
Why don't the airlines figure out the cost from A to B and charge the same amount for ALL coach seats and ALL first class seats? It's ridiculous to me that someone next to you may have paid $250 for a ticket and someone else paid $1200. I would be willing to pay more for a flight if I knew the fares were equal. If the airlines would do this one simple thing, they could quit nickel-and-diming us for everything else!
I prefer not to check bags due to the relatively high chance of having my luggage not arrive when/where I do, so prefer to cram everything possible into my carryon (but it STILL fits into the size bin at check out).
Until the flight attendants are allowed to stop passengers with oversized carryon items and send them back out to be gate checked, nothing will change.
"The customer is always right" works for Nordstrom, but it is just not appropriate for airlines where everyone has to deal with everyone else. Am I making sense?
Pack a half empty luggage, check it, and buy what you need when you get there. You'll fit it, and you'll have souvenirs.
That being said, there's many-a parent that I've seen that has brought far, far too much stuff on board. The kid doesn't need an entire playpen.
Business travelers are the worst from what I've seen. They'll stuff anything into the overhead bin, even slamming it repeatedly with their arms until it squeezes in there, just to avoid checking any baggage because they are "such in a hurry!" Of all the folks suitable for charging, these folks are.
I don't know what the clear solution is. I'd be happy to take a totally "ala carte" flight where I had to pay for EVERYTHING (baggage, meals, window seats, etc.) *if and only if* the original ticket price was rock-bottom, which they aren't. With the prices we're paying these days, we should be getting at least *something* for the cost besides a stall in which to moo.
I don't travel that often but I'd enjoy not being banged when they tote their goods down the aisle or put them up/down the compartments.
... Bring it ON! If they want to take anything so bad then CHECK IT IN AND PAY FOR IT, suck it up by paying to check it in (taking your chances it it will get there in one piece or not at all) or leave it behind and save yourself some time/money/hassle, simple as that!
It is similar to the way a train compartment works where there is an area near the doors to leave suitcases.
This reduces the need for baggage handlers and gives passengers more control over whether their bag makes it to their destination the same time they do!
Take American Airlines for example. About 70% of its fliers do not need to pay first or second checked bag fee. What will be more effective - $15 per bag on the other 30% or, say, $10 per bag on the 70%?
Now, turn to the fliers themselves. Almost all of these "status" fliers fly on some expense account. Realistically speaking, would you - and I for that matter as well - complain as much if you are not the one who ultimately pays? Some might say "corporate / client expense account is not free money - it is someone's money or could be someone's salary." Good point. So, think this way: if the flier saves $10 per night on hotel stay by switching from Westin to Sheraton or by ordering a $45 filet instead of a $55 one, the carry-on fee - again, assuming $10 - would be paid for without truly incurring additional burden on an expense account.
I have logged about 120K miles so far this year on business and personal travel. I would not mind allocating more of my expense account budget to airlines if the is both effective (one that will truly help the airlines fight against the rising fuel cost) and fair (applies to every flier). The truth is that Americans need airlines for both personal and business reasons. We can only hope that airlines get some guts and step up to charge everyone fairly.
I address those that carry on all of their luggage. It is because they are either to lazy or think they are above going to the carosel to pick their luggage up. So they manage to stow it away in two or more smaller luggage pieces and take up someone elses space and as well endanger others with heavy luggage that has been packed overhead.
In turbulance this is very dangerous. In Boarding and exiting it is a delay and has caused injury and delay as well as I feel, being very selfish and ignorant.
But then there are people who have only their interest at heart, because they are the most important person on the plane.
Weight and carry on bags should be counted along with body weight and charged accordingly. I
f you stow more than one regulation bag in the cabin, an extra charge should apply.
Those who have no cabin baggage should be allowed to deplane first.
These are some great ideas put forth by the people responding on this site.
Great site !!!
Jack
Another thing that would help is that the carry on luggage sizer be scaled back smaller and that the only thing that would fit in the unit would be a laptop or equivelant.
My suggestion: since this is an industry-standard size [I think], why don't they weed out these bin-hogs at the strip search...er, security checkpoint. These folks are trained to pay attention to bags anyway. Any questionable bag gets pulled BEFORE it goes through x-ray and the passenger has to check it. If you miss a flight because you had to spend time going through security TWICE, you might play by the rules more often. Maybe. I hope.
i've had too many bad bad experiences with this. so i always pack as light as i can and carry on.