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How code shares can save you money

Posted by George Hobica on Tuesday, February 8, 2011

What's a code share then? Put in simple terms, it's when one airline buys a bunch of seats on another airline at a contract price, and then sells them for whatever they can get. For example,  Delta flies nonstop from New York JFK to Pisa, Italy, and Alitalia, which doesn't fly that route nonstop, wants to list that flight in its schedule. This makes Alitalia look like a bigger, more comprehensive airline, which supposedly is good for business. Delta and Alitalia are then said to be in a code share agreement on that route.

Here's how you can save money: when looking for fares, check to see if there's a code share flight on another airline. You can get this information from the airline or a travel agent usually, or you can often figure it out by looking at fare results on a site like Kayak.com. In the case of New York to Pisa, as the screen grab from Kayak shows below, you can save over $200 by buying the exact same nonstop Delta flight via Alitalia rather than on Delta itself. In fact, you could spend up to $968 RT on various travel days for this route, vs. a possible low of $645. Nuts, no?

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Expedia will usually tell you who's plane you're flying on in the flight description.
by jaa-ray on Tuesday, February 08, 2011
I've seen price differences domestically for code shares of AA and Alaska.
by bambilam on Tuesday, February 08, 2011
This is mainly seen on international flights?
by 05girl on Tuesday, February 08, 2011
Hi there - I was actually really annoyed by a codeshare flight recently. I had asked a travel agent to put me on a European flight instead of a U.S. one due to way American airlines have been lowering standards and raising fees. I said that I didn't mind paying more in order to ensure that I got better service. The Agent gave me a KLM flight, which I paid more for in an effort to put my money where I believed it would make a difference. In the end, I was put on a Delta flight. Since taking this flight, I learned that KLM, AirFrance and Delta have a codeshare partnership. I, personally, was not pleased that my travel agent did not take this into account. I want a company's brand to mean something. For example, if you fly AirFrance thinking that the food will be better, ideally you would get the service that you thought you were buying. With codeshares, I feel that the companies are playing loose with their brands.
by bswift on Friday, July 23, 2010
Thanks, Abidah, for your additional information!
by stardancer on Saturday, September 29, 2007
Re CODE SHARING:

1. When a Large airline such as United or Delta has a code share agreement with a smaller regional airline for connecting flights to smaller, reginal airports (i.e. New York to Denver, changing planes in Denver for Colorado Springs) the flight number will reflect the larger airline (UA or DL) and the flight number will usually be 4 digits. Thus the "higher number" mentioned earlier.

2. The best way to find out which airline's aircraft you wil be flying on is to call the airline directly and ask! THey will tell you if it is a code share and who is actually operating the flight. You can also find out what type of aircraft it is (i.e Boeing 747, 767, etc.).

by Abidah on Friday, September 28, 2007
1st-- THANK YOU ALL for responding to my query so quickly!

2nd-- THANK YOU DANIEL for coming closest to trying to explain how to tell from the listing which is the ACTUAL carrier
("For stardancer, either check each local website or look at the flight numbers. Higher flight numbers generally indicate the codeshare partner flight.")

Unflortunately, I do not see the "higher flight numbers" to which you refer listed in the page grab??
Also, how does knowing it is a "codeshare partner" flight help you know on whose plane you are actually flying?
If I go to the website, how are these distinctions made clearer?

I thank you in advance if you, or someone else, returns to CLARIFY this further!

3rd-- BMM- no thanks for your insulting remark, which only shows your lack of comprehension of my question-- I AM interested in exactly WHICH carrier I will fly (not "whatever")-- which is the point--

4th-- THANK YOU T. FAUST for seeing the confusion on the screen shot to which I was referring (& to JASON for defending me-- but, as T FAUST notes, I realize it is the same flight but still want to know how you can know from this exactly whose plane you will be flying on. (Alitalia or Delta?) I only considered my prior experience with an airline, but DEB, thanks for pointing out the importance re check-in etc. I also think it may be necessary to know whose flight you are actually flying on with regard to differences in policies & fees regarding making changes/baggage allowances/etc. Unlike "whatever", some travellers like to do their research & know what to expect.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED! THANKS AGAIN!

by stardancer on Thursday, September 27, 2007
So, are code shares available on domestic flights as well , or just on international flights?
by KK on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
For stardancer, either check each local website or look at the flight numbers. Higher flight numbers generally indicate the codeshare partner flight.
by Daniel on Thursday, September 27, 2007
When I flew from Detroit to Nairobi, Kenya my ticket listed NWA for the US portion of the trip but KLM for the Amsterdam to Nairobi leg. When I checked both airline's flight #'s and times they both were listed and were identical. Got to be a bit confusing as to what airline I would be flying when and whose gate should I show up. I was told this was code-sharing....

It all worked out, but I still found it rather confusing.

by Deb on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
This is great information will keep it in my backpocket when I see the indicators of a code share agreement.
by Martha on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Stardancer: reading comprehension! Delta doesn't fly those routes, they buy tickets from the other airlines. So you're going to be flying on Atilalia or whatever anyway, whether your ticket says Delta or not.
by BMM on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Come on, BMM. Don't insult someone for poor comprehension. Read the following:

"Delta flies nonstop from New York JFK to Pisa"

"Alitalia, which doesn't fly that route nonstop"

Stardancer, the screenshot shows the carrier as Alitalia/Delta. This is an indication of the fact that it's the same flight.

by Jason on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
I think the question is an entirely reasonable one. It's not about what was written, but when you are on the Kayak site, for example, how do you know who the actual carrier is?
by T. Faust on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Re Code-sharing: I'm a bit confused by these sample listings: how can you tell if you are actually flying on Delta or on Alitalia (eg- I have flown Delta & had a good experience, know nothing re Alitalia)- Is there a way of cross-checking this info to see on whose plane one is actually flying (eg-airline flight route map?)even though the flight may be listed 4 different ways?
by stardancer on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
HI THERE, I NEED TO FIND ONE RT. TICKET FROM NY. CITY , OR BOSTON, TO MANILA, OR BANGKOK, LEAVING IN JAN.- ANY DATES, BUT STAYING FOR 3 WEEKS.. CAN ANYONE OUT THERE PLEASE HELP ME FIND A FARE INC. TAXES FOR LESS THAN $755.00.. CODE SHARES WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU CAN FIND ME ONE ???? I NEED ALL THE HELP I CAN PLEASE GET....... THANKS VERY MUCH & GOD BLESS YOU ALL........... CHARLIE.......... CT199@MSN.COM
by CHARLIE on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Re Code-sharing: I'm a bit confused by these sample listings: how can you tell if you are actually flying on Delta or on Alitalia (eg- I have flown Delta & had a good experience, know nothing re Alitalia)- Is there a way of cross-checking this info to see on whose plane one is actually flying (eg-airline flight route map?)even though the flight may be listed 4 different ways?
by stardancer on Wednesday, September 26, 2007
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